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25 Responses to “What is Jewish Scripture? Judaism’s Holy Books…”
His defense of the … His defense of the Talmud is fake. The hatred for gentiles is unanimous and never is a timeline established. But more importantly the Talmud/Mishnah and indeed the so-called oral law is a hoax. Only the Pharisees which comprises most Jews today, had this so-called oral law. All others zealots, essenes, karaites, ethiopian jews and so forth opposed it. The Essenes in particular because they knew it was mostly zorastrian thoughts being added to Judaism
And Jesus made that … And Jesus made that very clear, he always said that he was in the father and the father was in him, in other words Jesus was God in the flesh.
I reckon if the messiah had not come yet, we would all have been ruined by the wrath of God because right now we are living in times more wicked than Sodom and Gomorra and even the times of noah.
I have a question, … I have a question, See I like the jews because there Gods chosen people. Though how is it that Orthodox Jews dont believe that Jesus is the son of God? I mean the prophet Isaiah wrote about him. Also I have heard that Orthodox Jews believe that Elijah is supposed to be the messiah, but when God spoke through Isaiah he said That on that day you will know that he is I and apart fom me there is no savior.
Fascinating video. … Fascinating video. Though Judaism’s concept of Scripture seems to have developed after the dawn of the common era. The evidence of this is the following:
(A) The Septuagint has books not in Tanakh today, thus showing a different canon.
(B) Josephus’ version of Esther was different.
(C) Some NT authors (themselves Jews) quoted from the Septuagint.
(D) In Bavli, Tractate Baba Qama 92B, one Sage seemed to reckon Sirach was part of the Ketuvim.
yes it is just a … yes it is just a guys view, n thats how a muslim needs to see it, its not revelation,
a muslim believes the quran is the literal composition of god’s words, a manual for mankind, n in this manual it tell us to use muhammed’s works as a source for details of how to practice n know islam, so the muslim uses sahih hadith to know islam, but at the same time due to humans imperfections to narrate exactly what happened even if they r 100% sincer, we don’t hold hadith as inerrent, ok.
i said any … i said any translation will be terrible,but urs has selectively excluded certain parts, the original text is a three page explaination, yet u have cut n pasted out what disproved ur case(in this i blame ur source n not u)in essence,only the last part where the verse says,”the religion is for Allah”is in dispute,he cites several ppls opinions on what was meant,some said,until the muslims can pratice freely others said until there was no more shirkh,n the simple reason is the saw the two as synonymous
tabari writings … tabari writings aren’t considered part of the sunnah, apart from in the apocaphol sense, n u know who made that distingction, yes u guessed it tabaril. so y r u being disingenous?
Tabari’s writings … Tabari’s writings are part of the Sunnah. Do we have to discuss the importance of Sunnah in Islam now? What’s next? Tabari never existed???
The book I was … The book I was quoting is: جامع البيان عن تأويل آي القرآن , Chapter 9, Verse 69. I didn’t give page number at all, so I don’t know what is your problem with that. Though, everyone can read your books on al-islam . com and find out for themselves. You are simply trying to downplay, but this doesn’t work with people who have insight.
I know what a … I know what a tafseer is. Unfortunaltely, it is not “just a guy’s” view, but the view of scholars and schools. No need to relativate. The translation though, is from al-tafsir . com. Doesn’t sound very “islamophobic”, does it?
btw tabari wrote … btw tabari wrote 100s of books, in which alot still remain even today, so when we reference we give book title, chapter title, paragraph numer if needed……….. yeah n page numbers dont work…… if this gives u problems i don’t care, it serves u right for so dependent on islamophic sites.
its not scripture, … its not scripture, that if verified, is a collection of apocaphol material by tabari. if tabari stated it as apocaphol, y do u pass it off as scripture to muslims? a small disingenous, don’t u reckon?
eventhough ur … eventhough ur translation is poor, n it’s an obvious effort to try n verify ur point, n there is no way to verify ur references, n even if a excellent translation could be rendered, alot will still be lost in translation.
but even so, atleast it proves my point, it shows the fight was with a point group n location, who were persecuting muslims.
so thats the end of that.
btw tafseer isn’t revelation, just a guys view about it.
(And fight them) … (And fight them) i.e. the disbelievers of Mecca (until persecution) disbelief, idolatry, idol worship and fighting against Muhammad (pbuh) in the Sacred Precinct (is no more, and religion) in the Sacred Precinct as well as worship (is all for Allah) such that none ruins apart from the Religion of Islam. (But if they stop) disbelief, idolatry, idol worship and fighting the Prophet (pbuh) (then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do) of excellent and evil.
I have to agree … I have to agree with hurataimad on this one–have you read Muhammad’s last sermon?
“O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person, apart from in piety.”
Arabs are no better in Islam than any other people. Islam is not racist. 88% of Muslims are non-Arabs.
forget context, … forget context, forget the fact u took half a condemn, forget the fact u ignored the sentences b4 n the one after, YOU GOT THE TRANSLATION WRONG, incorrect incorrect
“fight them(the pagan arab mushriks of quresh) until there is no more fitna (oppression, corruption, incorrect doing) n the deen (our religion) all of it is 4 god (ie the muslims in mecca can pratice islam freely)”
i take it u want to burn our mosques, rape our women, force us to disbelieve in islam, was that ur point.
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what is jewish …
what is jewish scripture? well, lets see… a excellent substitute for toilete paper or kindleing! i cant see any other use for it.
faki49 – What will …
faki49 – What will happen when the Muslims read the Torah in Hebrew ?
His defense of the …
His defense of the Talmud is fake. The hatred for gentiles is unanimous and never is a timeline established. But more importantly the Talmud/Mishnah and indeed the so-called oral law is a hoax. Only the Pharisees which comprises most Jews today, had this so-called oral law. All others zealots, essenes, karaites, ethiopian jews and so forth opposed it. The Essenes in particular because they knew it was mostly zorastrian thoughts being added to Judaism
According to …
According to Haaretz last year 70 Jews in Israel became Muslims. Though a muslim becoming a Jew is completely unheard of
And Jesus made that …
And Jesus made that very clear, he always said that he was in the father and the father was in him, in other words Jesus was God in the flesh.
I reckon if the messiah had not come yet, we would all have been ruined by the wrath of God because right now we are living in times more wicked than Sodom and Gomorra and even the times of noah.
I have a question, …
I have a question, See I like the jews because there Gods chosen people. Though how is it that Orthodox Jews dont believe that Jesus is the son of God? I mean the prophet Isaiah wrote about him. Also I have heard that Orthodox Jews believe that Elijah is supposed to be the messiah, but when God spoke through Isaiah he said That on that day you will know that he is I and apart fom me there is no savior.
Fascinating video. …
Fascinating video. Though Judaism’s concept of Scripture seems to have developed after the dawn of the common era. The evidence of this is the following:
(A) The Septuagint has books not in Tanakh today, thus showing a different canon.
(B) Josephus’ version of Esther was different.
(C) Some NT authors (themselves Jews) quoted from the Septuagint.
(D) In Bavli, Tractate Baba Qama 92B, one Sage seemed to reckon Sirach was part of the Ketuvim.
I can elaborate if you’re interested.
Maybe muslims will …
Maybe muslims will become Jews then…
just something i …
just something i was watching n by coincidence he touches on the same issue, watch?v=1HXGRYaUy6g&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div
watch it!
Questions: What …
Questions: What will happen to the Jews when the Tablets of the Ark of the Covenant are found.
Resolution: They will recognize the truth of the scriptures and become Muslim.
I see, very excellent …
I see, very excellent resolution!
جامع البيان
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جامع البيان
chapter 9 verse 69 isn’t what u cited, so either u are insincere or u r mistaken about ur reference, so go back n get the real reference.
yes it is just a …
yes it is just a guys view, n thats how a muslim needs to see it, its not revelation,
a muslim believes the quran is the literal composition of god’s words, a manual for mankind, n in this manual it tell us to use muhammed’s works as a source for details of how to practice n know islam, so the muslim uses sahih hadith to know islam, but at the same time due to humans imperfections to narrate exactly what happened even if they r 100% sincer, we don’t hold hadith as inerrent, ok.
i said any …
i said any translation will be terrible,but urs has selectively excluded certain parts, the original text is a three page explaination, yet u have cut n pasted out what disproved ur case(in this i blame ur source n not u)in essence,only the last part where the verse says,”the religion is for Allah”is in dispute,he cites several ppls opinions on what was meant,some said,until the muslims can pratice freely others said until there was no more shirkh,n the simple reason is the saw the two as synonymous
tabari writings …
tabari writings aren’t considered part of the sunnah, apart from in the apocaphol sense, n u know who made that distingction, yes u guessed it tabaril. so y r u being disingenous?
Tabari’s writings …
Tabari’s writings are part of the Sunnah. Do we have to discuss the importance of Sunnah in Islam now? What’s next? Tabari never existed???
The book I was …
The book I was quoting is: جامع البيان عن تأويل آي القرآن , Chapter 9, Verse 69. I didn’t give page number at all, so I don’t know what is your problem with that. Though, everyone can read your books on al-islam . com and find out for themselves. You are simply trying to downplay, but this doesn’t work with people who have insight.
I know what a …
I know what a tafseer is. Unfortunaltely, it is not “just a guy’s” view, but the view of scholars and schools. No need to relativate. The translation though, is from al-tafsir . com. Doesn’t sound very “islamophobic”, does it?
btw tabari wrote …
btw tabari wrote 100s of books, in which alot still remain even today, so when we reference we give book title, chapter title, paragraph numer if needed……….. yeah n page numbers dont work…… if this gives u problems i don’t care, it serves u right for so dependent on islamophic sites.
its not scripture, …
its not scripture, that if verified, is a collection of apocaphol material by tabari. if tabari stated it as apocaphol, y do u pass it off as scripture to muslims? a small disingenous, don’t u reckon?
eventhough ur …
eventhough ur translation is poor, n it’s an obvious effort to try n verify ur point, n there is no way to verify ur references, n even if a excellent translation could be rendered, alot will still be lost in translation.
but even so, atleast it proves my point, it shows the fight was with a point group n location, who were persecuting muslims.
so thats the end of that.
btw tafseer isn’t revelation, just a guys view about it.
(And fight them) …
(And fight them) i.e. the disbelievers of Mecca (until persecution) disbelief, idolatry, idol worship and fighting against Muhammad (pbuh) in the Sacred Precinct (is no more, and religion) in the Sacred Precinct as well as worship (is all for Allah) such that none ruins apart from the Religion of Islam. (But if they stop) disbelief, idolatry, idol worship and fighting the Prophet (pbuh) (then lo! Allah is Seer of what they do) of excellent and evil.
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn Abbâs
I was quoting your …
I was quoting your scriptures.^^
I have to agree …
I have to agree with hurataimad on this one–have you read Muhammad’s last sermon?
“O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person, apart from in piety.”
Arabs are no better in Islam than any other people. Islam is not racist. 88% of Muslims are non-Arabs.
forget context, …
forget context, forget the fact u took half a condemn, forget the fact u ignored the sentences b4 n the one after, YOU GOT THE TRANSLATION WRONG, incorrect incorrect
“fight them(the pagan arab mushriks of quresh) until there is no more fitna (oppression, corruption, incorrect doing) n the deen (our religion) all of it is 4 god (ie the muslims in mecca can pratice islam freely)”
i take it u want to burn our mosques, rape our women, force us to disbelieve in islam, was that ur point.